What Doug Royer is complaining about is that his mail client previously
told him right away. He didn't have to wait for a bounce. Now he has to
wait for a bounce, and that is a "big change".
As I pointed, this is incorrect behavior to begin with, on the part of
MUA. It is therefore, "not a big change". Proper MUA's previously handed
the message to a relay, and got a bounce. Proper MUA's still get a bounce.
You still get a bounce, and you still find out that the domain is
incorrect. Nothing has changed.
Your assertions below are irrelevant to the original message. As such,
they are in fact sophistry.
--Dean
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 Valdis(_dot_)Kletnieks(_at_)vt(_dot_)edu wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:45:14 EDT, Dean Anderson said:
I think you have pointed out that this is indeed the function of a mail
server, not a mail client. It is a bug.
OK Dean, let's go back and look at the original message.
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Doug Royer wrote:
Before the change if I email user(_at_)bogushost(_dot_)com, the email tool
would
tell me immedatally
that no such host exists.
Well you know what Dean? When I mail to a duff address, my MUA (exmh)
hands it off to a proper MTA, and the MTA gets an error. And it hands a
bounce
message back to my MUA, which tells me about it.
Hey - look what my mail tool is telling me:
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(multipart/report)
Human-readable report (text/plain)
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** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY **
** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE **
**********************************************
The original message was received at Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:42:05 -0400 (EDT)
from IDENT:mirapoint(_at_)evil-zidane [10.1.1.13]
----- Transcript of session follows -----
<rbooker(_at_)vsu(_dot_)edu>... Deferred: Connection timed out with
vsu.vsu.edu.
Warning: message still undelivered after 1 day
Will keep trying until message is 3 days old
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The DSN was generated on a Alphaserver running Sendmail some 8 miles
from where I'm typing. My laptop never even tried to resolve vsu.edu in
connection
with this transaction. But I'm getting the notification from my MUA.
And neither is there any actual justification for your claim that the
original poster's
mail client tried to do the lookup.
So all your sophistry about "the client shouldn't be doing it" is just that.
Sophistry.