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Re: Petition to the IESG for a PR-action against Jefsey Morfin posted

2005-09-30 14:55:09
Randy Presuhn writes:

At the WG level, disruptive members cause an enormous increase in the
effort required to get anything done.

How hard can it be to delete messages?

Our desire to ensure that minority viewpoints are heard puts us in a
difficult bind when only ones expressing those viewpoints are
individuals who also choose to behave badly.

You can just ignore people who behave badly.  Why must they be
silenced for everyone just because you don't want to hear them?

Invoking RFC 3934 at the WG level is not something that any WG chair
would undertake lightly.

I don't even understand why this is an RFC.  What does it have to do
with the technical functioning of the Internet?  What next?  An RFC
establishing an official religion?

I'm sure the IESG is fully aware of the gravity of invoking RFC 3683.

I doubt that.  If it were that aware, no such RFC would exist in the
first place.

However, the reason the procedures exist at all is out of the
recognition that a very few people are so abusive of our processes
and culture that we need to be able to cut them off so that we can
get real work done.

Translation: Everyone reaches a point where he prefers to censor
others rather than tolerate them.

If their technical arguments have real merit, they will reach us by other
avenues.

If other avenues work, you don't need mailing lists, do you?

It would be so much simpler if everyone could be counted on to
recognize (easy) and ignore (hard) the bad actors.

If people don't want to ignore them, why is it your duty to do their
thinking for them?


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