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RE: Beyond conflict

2005-10-12 08:56:53
Voice conference calls - however done - are bound to be
better than E-Mail, just as face to face is better than
voice.

However, "I haven't been heard" phenomena are far from 
unique to E-Mail and other text based communication and
can happen even with face-to-face communication.  The 
difference is that - with text based communication - it
is possible that what you've said will _eventually_ get
noticed...

--
Eric

--> -----Original Message-----
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--> [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org]On Behalf Of
--> Hallam-Baker, Phillip
--> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:05 AM
--> To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand; Michael StJohns
--> Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
--> Subject: RE: Beyond conflict
--> 
--> 
-->  
--> 
--> > -----Original Message-----
--> > From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On 
--> > Behalf Of Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--> 
--> > --On tirsdag, oktober 11, 2005 07:23:08 -0700 
--> "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" 
--> > <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com> wrote:
--> > 
--> > > Instant messaging and jabber may well be worsening the 
--> problem. The 
--> > > channel is more interactive than email but it has the same 
--> > problem of 
--> > > cutting out nuace and non-verbal cues.
--> > 
--> > Open Internet-based conference calls?
--> > 
--> > <ducks>
--> 
--> They work in OASIS. Everyone knows they have to have their stuff
--> together for the next con-call in two weeks time.
--> 
--> It cuts down a lot on shouting matches. It means that 
--> loonies peddling
--> incomprehensible schemes can be pursuaded that their idea 
--> has been heard
--> and rejected. The problem with email is you never know if 
--> anyone read
--> it. So some people conclude that the reason their idea is 
--> not finding
--> favor is they have not posted it enough.
--> 
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