Re: bozoproofing the net, was The Value of Reputation

Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote:
> On Monday, January 02, 2006 08:51:20 PM -0800 Dave Crocker 
> <dhc2(_at_)dcrocker(_dot_)net> wrote:
> > >     I don't
> > > believe we have ever turned "winning by exhaustion" or "winning
> > > by intimidation" into virtues, even though those techniques are
> >
> > Actually we have.
> >
> > It is used with some regularity by various folk in IETF management, in
> > lieu of honoring the requirements of "plausible" that I provided above.
> If that's true (and I'm not expressing any opinion as to whether it is), 
> that doesn't make it a virtue.
> > Note the change that Russ is making to the charter.
> I think a lot of people might be missing a key point about how our 
> process works.  In fact, it's looked that way to me for a while, and so 
> since you bring it up, I'll try to clear things up for anyone who might 
> be confused. Please don't think I'm singling you out...
[...]
> In other words, Russ is within his rights to make changes to the charter 
> he is willing to bring to the IESG -- especially in a case such as this 
> where the proposed charter has been discussed so publicly that the rest 
> of the IESG cannot possibly be deceived into thinking the charter Russ 
> brings them is exactly the one the DKIM proponents proposed.
I agree. As I believe do a number of other dkim "proponents", most
of whom are, I'd say, much less concerned about these (IMO mainly
process-nit) issues with the charter text and who'd like to get on
with the work in a working group with all that that entails - most
especially including establishing wg-consensus on the text of the
chartered deliverables.

Stephen.


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