Peter,
you can call them root servers, but actually they are servers listed
in the NTIA root. So they are TLD servers used as by the ISP as root
servers. This only seem to mean that the concept of root is not used.
This is a TLD forest. Experimentation we carried with dot-root made
us to understand that this can be very complex but to work well. This
is why we called this TLD forest description the "authoritative root
matrix". But this may be only a concept that many people
automatically build and mutually cross-check. The important
information are not the actual IP addresses, but the way to obtain them.
This is what the Chinese say. Users do not navigate anymore under the
ICANN root. But they do not create a root. They just do not use a
root anymore. This closes the dispute between authoritative and
alternative roots.
jfc
At 17:58 03/03/2006, Peter Dambier wrote:
Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
On 2 mar 2006, at 09.26, Mohsen BANAN wrote:
More than 5 years ago I predicted what the Chinese
government announced today.
What happened today:
http://english.people.com.cn/200602/28/eng20060228_246712.html
http://www.interfax.cn/showfeature.asp?aid=10411&slug=INTERNET-
POLICY-MII-DOMAIN%20NAME-DNS
http://www.domainesinfo.fr/vie_extensions.php?vde_id=859
http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/06/02/28/1610242.shtml
http://news.com.com/China+creates+own+Internet+domains/
2100-1028_3-6044629.html
was obvious and quite easy to foresee.
Addressing the requirements of a very real
international multi-root environment is also not
all that hard and will likely naturally evolve.
To best of my knowledge, that there are no new Chinese root-servers -
despite what the press says. And at least we have not seen a drop in
queries to our anycast instance in Beijing yet so there even seems to
be data to support that...
But what do I know...
- kurtis -
Hi Curtis,
at least we can see these domains. Can you see them too, on the
nameservers you are using?
; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any XN--55QX5D. @hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46417
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 3
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;XN--55QX5D. IN ANY
;; ANSWER SECTION:
XN--55QX5D. 3600 IN SOA hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.
root.cnnic.cn. \
2006030104 3600 900
604800 3600
XN--55QX5D. 3600 IN NS hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.
XN--55QX5D. 3600 IN NS cdns3.cnnic.net.cn.
XN--55QX5D. 3600 IN NS cdns4.cnnic.net.cn.
XN--55QX5D. 3600 IN NS cdns5.cnnic.net.cn.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
cdns3.cnnic.net.cn. 38 IN A 210.52.214.86
cdns4.cnnic.net.cn. 518 IN A 61.145.114.120
cdns5.cnnic.net.cn. 518 IN A 61.139.76.55
;; Query time: 410 msec
;; SERVER: 159.226.6.185#53(hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.)
;; WHEN: Fri Mar 3 17:53:18 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 215
; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any XN--FIQS8S. @hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61182
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 3
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;XN--FIQS8S. IN ANY
;; ANSWER SECTION:
XN--FIQS8S. 3600 IN SOA hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.
root.cnnic.cn. \
2006030104 3600 900
604800 3600
XN--FIQS8S. 3600 IN NS hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.
XN--FIQS8S. 3600 IN NS cdns3.cnnic.net.cn.
XN--FIQS8S. 3600 IN NS cdns4.cnnic.net.cn.
XN--FIQS8S. 3600 IN NS cdns5.cnnic.net.cn.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
cdns3.cnnic.net.cn. 574 IN A 210.52.214.86
cdns4.cnnic.net.cn. 451 IN A 61.145.114.120
cdns5.cnnic.net.cn. 451 IN A 61.139.76.55
;; Query time: 399 msec
;; SERVER: 159.226.6.185#53(hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.)
;; WHEN: Fri Mar 3 17:54:25 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 215
; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any XN--IO0A7I. @hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 35342
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 3
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;XN--IO0A7I. IN ANY
;; ANSWER SECTION:
XN--IO0A7I. 3600 IN SOA hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.
root.cnnic.cn. \
2006030104 3600 900
604800 3600
XN--IO0A7I. 3600 IN NS hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.
XN--IO0A7I. 3600 IN NS cdns3.cnnic.net.cn.
XN--IO0A7I. 3600 IN NS cdns4.cnnic.net.cn.
XN--IO0A7I. 3600 IN NS cdns5.cnnic.net.cn.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
cdns3.cnnic.net.cn. 493 IN A 210.52.214.86
cdns4.cnnic.net.cn. 370 IN A 61.145.114.120
cdns5.cnnic.net.cn. 370 IN A 61.139.76.55
;; Query time: 400 msec
;; SERVER: 159.226.6.185#53(hawk2.cnnic.net.cn.)
;; WHEN: Fri Mar 3 17:55:46 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 215
regards
Peter and Karin
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