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Re: Last Call: draft-iesg-sponsoring-guidelines (Guidance on Area Director Sponsoring of Documents) to Informational RFC

2007-02-08 16:30:13
Hi Frank,
That was the complaint, the draft is from an IESG POV, and it
explains how to deal with confused authors claiming that a
single bit is enough to count to three or similar cases.

  

I would be happy to sponsor a ternary bit draft, but
only on April 1 :-)

But it doesn't address the POV of authors who want to get an
evaluation of their I-D.  The first step is clear, figure out
the area, if that's unclear ask the General AD.

  

Right.

After that if the area has a "catchall crackpot WG" try to
get a review there, at some point in time ask the Chair(s)
to adopt the I-D.  Is that still correct ?

If the area has no catchall crackpot WG try to get reviews
on a related IETF or "other" list, at some point in time ask
one of the ADs.  
  

Right. But the draft says relatively little about this,
because there are different situations. Some areas
have a general purpose area working group with
chairs and an ability to produce documents just like
any other WG. Other areas (like INT) have only a
discussion forum that is not intended for detailed
protocol development. In the latter case the ADs
are likely to get more individual submission
proposals.

And the authors may not even be the active parties. ADs
may and sometimes do solicit specifications for some
purpose, such as fixing a bug or updating an aging
crypto algorithm.

If that AD agrees to support it there will be a Last Call
or not - depending on the intended status, or the decision
of that AD to "last call" it anyway.

  

Right.

But what if the AD doesn't like it ?  Not all drafts try to
introduce ternary bits.  Apparently ADs are forced to vote
[Yes] (at least initially) if they "sponsor" a document.

What if they don't like it, but the authors still insist on
an evaluation ?  Can they appeal then ?  What if the AD 
does not like it personally, but admits that it's not as 
bad as the famous ternary bits ?
  

As with regular WG submissions, the document has to pass
the responsible AD's review. Otherwise it goes back to the
WG or the authors. ADs can always decline to sponsor a given
document, based on usefulness to the community, expertise,
etc. There is no guarantee that all suggestions will be
taken on.

Appeals procedures apply just like they do for other
contributions.

Jari


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