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RE: IPv6 RIR policy [was Re: IPv6 addresses really are scarce after all]

2007-08-30 07:55:16
1. This is NOT ARIN's decision to make, nor that of any of 
the other RIRs, because the /48 decision is not independent 
of many other design decisions in IPv6.

Show me the document where this is explained.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I am just saying "Show me the document"
because if you can't show it to me, then you are wrong. The IETF has not
made any design decision until it is in an RFC.

2. If ARIN or any of the other RIRs have concerns about an 
IETF design decision, they need to express that to IETF and 
ask IETF to fix it.

ARIN, like the IETF, is mainly a bunch of individuals. I, as an
individual with a history of involvement in ARIN (I was a founding
member of the ARIN Advisory Council), have already come to this mailing
list, which ostensibly is frequented by individuals who have a history
of involvement in the IETF. I have already asked the IETF to fix this.

Clearly you do not believe that a request from an individual is
sufficient. Since the IETF seems to be defined by its documents, I
wonder which RFC I can refer to in order to find out the correct formal
process for ARIN to follow in order to ask the IETF to fix the problem?

I will admit that I could attempt to fix this by writing an ID myself,
but since I was not involved in the IP-NG work in IETF, I really don't
know why the IPv6 architecture is what it is. And since I learned about
IPv6 mainly by reading RFCs, I worry that I may still have
misconceptions hanging around from before various things were
deprecated.

The danger in my going to them personally is that it will weaken or
delay the communication that needs to occur.   By insisting that I do
this before either ARIN or IETF takes any action there is a 
far greater chance that the problems in both ARIN and IETF 
will not get fixed. 

The fact is that we need a document explaining the IPv6 architecture as
it stands today. A document that can guide the RIRs but also the many
IPv4 network designers who are being forced to architect or design their
first IPv6 network. A compact document that fairly states the IETF's
intent with regard to IPv6. But most importantly of all, this document
must answer objections and common misunderstanding. Failure to do this
last item, is failure to communicate, which will cause many people to
waste time and waste a lot of money. You can't answer objections and
correct misunderstandings unless you participate in forums *OUTSIDE* the
IETF where the objections and misunderstandings arise.

If this delays communications a bit, that is a good thing if it also
results in better quality of work.

--Michael Dillon

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