Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

Noel Chiappa wrote:

    > From: Sam Weiler <weiler(_at_)tislabs(_dot_)com>

    > It is remarkably easy to get involved with the ARIN public policy
    > procecss and submit a proposal

Yes, and they listen so well! Just like they listened to the people telling
them that PI "addresses" were a bad idea; and how can we forget that recent
todo about /48's vs. /56's?


Huh...and here I was thinking, "Maybe ARIN actually does listen to
people.  Apparently they paid attention to those of us saying that PI
space was absolutely critical for any real level of adoption of IPv6."


It seems that nanog is focused (somewhat understandably) on the ideas of
the ISP world.

In the enterprise world, where I live now, IPv6 is just flat out a
non-starter without PI space.  Its just not even a discussion that's
even useful to have, because the answer to IPv6 without PI is just "No."

The sooner ISPs quit trying to fight this fight, and just start
implementing this stuff widely, the better off everyone will be.

To borrow from Nike, "Just Do It."  OK, maybe not all the tools are
fully mature for IPv6, maybe some network gear handles it in main CPU
rather than hardware.  So what?!  Its possible to deploy IPv6 today.
The technology is "good enough."  Maybe its not ideal, but its good
enough to make it possible.

I'm just sick of the bickering and idiocy about IPv6 not being at
complete feature parity with IPv4.  Well, no duh!  It doesn't need to be
right out of the gate.  IPv6 doesn't need to be as scaleable as IPv4
right away.  It will take time for traffic levels to ramp up, so all of
the scalability tricks that we're all using for IPv4 aren't needed right
away in IPv6 land.

If we want these capabilities to exist, we all need to pressure vendors
to bring it about.  Saying "I want to do IPv6, at some point, if it
would be convenient for you." just doesn't hack it.  Saying, as I have
to a vendor in just these words, "We're implementing IPv6 *now*, and
your gear is standing in our way.  You're behind the curve and you need
to catch up, or we quit buying it." brings a lot more pressure to bear.


In short, just drop the arguing over it and start deploying.  I don't
care how, just do it.  But if you tell me I can't use PI space, I'm
gonna laugh in your face and tell you you're dreaming.
-- 
Jeff McAdams
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
                                       -- Benjamin Franklin

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