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Re: A priori IPR choices [Re: Third Last Call:draft-housley-tls-authz-extns]

2007-10-23 12:16:07
"Simon" == Simon Josefsson <simon(_at_)josefsson(_dot_)org> writes:

    Simon> Norbert Bollow <nb(_at_)bollow(_dot_)ch> writes:
    >>> I also note that we can easily get onto a slippery slope here.
    >>> Many companies view the GPL to be an encumbrance no less
    >>> severe than the patent policies of other companies.  Perhaps
    >>> it is even more severe because encumbrances associated with
    >>> patents that can be made to go away by the payment of money
    >>> are less complicated to deal with (if one is willing to spent
    >>> the money) than encumbrances under the GPS, which just don't
    >>> go away.  Would you recommend that IETF not permit any
    >>> materials that might be encumbered under the GPL, etc.?
    >>  I would recommend that in order to be considered acceptable,
    >> implementation in GPL'd free software as well as implementation
    >> in proprietary closed-source software must both be allowed by
    >> the licensing terms of any patents.

    Simon> I think that is a good recommendation, and I support it.

    Simon> I would even consider a requirement that in order to move
    Simon> beyond Proposed Standard, a protocol needs to have a free
    Simon> implementation available.

I'd love to get there, but I think building that consensus today would
be a non-starter.

Let me suggest starting with a lesser goal.  Try to build a consensus
that unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, it needs to be
possible to write an open-source implementation of a standard and that
the absence of such an implementation should be considered a red flag
when advancing beyond proposed.

Basically I'd like to start by getting to a point where we assume that
open-source implementations are a goal and that we explicitly decide
that they are not a requirement in contexts where that makes sense.

I suspect we would run into resistance building that consensus but it
might be worth trying.
  --Sam


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