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Re: Deployment Cases

2007-12-27 23:42:41
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The problem is not to produce specifications, but to get them used.

The "What makes a protocol successful" presentation, shows that the
best protocols are the ones given to IETF for it to refine and
complete. They have already a user pull when they reach IETF.

There is a weak link between IETF and NOGs.

IETF is full of "engineer politics"

There is no feedback loop on the specifications, including oversight
on what the IETF is doing. Who knows what the IETF is? What does it
do? etc... The specialized press does not follow the IETF work to give
hints on what is likely to get adopted or not.

The IETF journal is a good step in this direction. The IETF
fellowships brings new blood. More steps need to be taken.

You may need an ISAG (Internet Strategic Advisory Group), made of non
engineers with one IETF liaison, who would provide vision, direction,
analysis as well as reach out to communities. It could be composed of
one rep from each NOG, one rep from the ICANN community, one rep from
the business community, one rep from the media/press community, one
rep from the user community.

Cheers

Dave Crocker wrote:


Christian Huitema wrote:
However we do need to have a basis for believing that the work we
are doing will actually get used.

We went through that many times. The best way we have found so far
is to
verify that the proposed working group has a sufficient
constituency. This
has the advantage of not requiring economic or business judgments
from the
IESG.


Right.

We don't have a problem with regularly producing specifications that
do not
get used.

So there's no need to look for improvement in this arena.

d/

ps. There is a difference between "economic or business judgements"
and simply trying to assess whether there is a serious desire by an
Internet community to use the work.  The difference is fundamental,
so it's best not to confuse them.


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