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Re: Last Call: Policy Statement on the Day Pass Experiment

2010-05-07 10:15:51
Having served on Nomcom before as well have participated in the Day Pass 
Experiment, I find myself disagreeing with this policy statement.

The statement seems to assumes that the day-pass holder minimally use their 
pass and a week-pass holder maximumly uses their pass.   The statement 
completely ignores that choosing eligibility in NOMCOM by which passes pays for 
is significantly flawed to begin with.

In my opinion, no harm would be done by allowing someone who attended 3 of 5 
IETFs only on minimum day passes from serving on a NOMCOM.  We should not 
restrict eligibility to those who pay for full weeks until such time that there 
is evidence of harm.   Given we haven't formed a NOMCOM since the Day Pass 
Experiment started, there simply cannot be yet be any such evidence.  I think 
this policy action is premature.

I oppose this policy statement.

Regards, Kurt



On May 6, 2010, at 3:07 PM, The IESG wrote:

The IESG is considering the following Statement on the Day Pass
Experiment.  The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks on
a policy statement, and the IESG actively solicits comments on this
action.  Please send substantive comments to the ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
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lists by 2010-05-20. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to
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RFC 3777 requires that voting members of the nominating committee
(NomCom) be selected from volunteers that have attended at least three
of the last five IETF meetings.  The IAOC is conducting a day pass
experiment, making it necessary to augment the NomCom eligibility rules
to address IETF participants that make use of a day pass.  An update to
RFC 3777 to will be needed to address this situation if at the end of
the experiment the IAOC decides to make day passes a regular meeting
registration alternative; however, a BCP update for an experiment is
overkill.

The IESG observes that attending a single day of the IETF meeting is not
sufficient for a new participant to learn the culture of the IETF or the
qualities that would make an effective IETF leader.  Further, ongoing
exposure to the IETF standards process is necessary to appreciate the
significance and importance of cross-area review.

The eligibility requirements of volunteers for NomCom voting member
positions are provided in RFC 3777, which includes:

  14. Members of the IETF community must have attended at least 3 of
      the last 5 IETF meetings in order to volunteer.

In the context of the day pass experiment, this is interpreted to mean:

  14. IETF participants must have attended at least 3 of the last 5
      IETF meetings in order to volunteer, and that use of a day pass
      does not count as IETF meeting attendance.
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