On 2010-07-30 08:47, Dave CROCKER wrote:
On 7/29/2010 10:00 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
If we're going to continue this avalanche of ad hoc meetings that we call
"Bar BOFs", I would recommend that the Secretariat provide a web page for
requesting them. The title of the web page should be "Poorly Planned
Meetings" or something like that.
In other words, let's make unofficial, ad hoc meetings be formal and
scheduled.
Fred, like you, I'm delighted to see the activity. However just because
there is interest in having formal, scheduled activities that are not
qualified to be BOFs, we do not need to have IETF administration support
them with extra services. Let's let these self-initiated efforts remain
what they are. If they can garner attendees, that's fine. If they
can't, better luck next time. Even with the excellent title you
suggest, the web page will move these activities down the slippery slope
of formality.
The way to make a more rational schedule for the week is to schedule
less, not more.
I learned a lesson in, now where was it?, oh yes, Anaheim. I decided to
have a Bar BOF, decided that the Hilton bar really wasn't convenient,
borrowed a room from Marcia, invited a few people, was asked to advertise
it on the wiki, and ended up with every seat taken in quite a big room.
The discussion was good, but not overwhelmingly successful, and a lot
of people just sat there quietly. (Admittedly, there was very little
else to do in Anaheim for those over ten years old.)
I wish it had just been six of us at the bar.
Brian
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