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RE: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent

2010-08-30 18:54:22
The island that would probably best address most of the concerns brought up
recently is Oahu.  Large hotels on the neighbor islands tend to be resorts,
where the idea is to keep you in the one hotel while not sightseeing.  While
there are several large hotels on Oahu that have meeting facilities, there
is also the Hawaii Convention Center (http://www.hawaiiconvention.com/).
Honolulu International Airport (HNL) has extensive direct connections to
North America and Asia.  The hotels in Waikiki are an easy
taxi/bus/shuttle/rental car ride away.  There are many restaurants and bars
(of various repute) an easy walk from the Convention Center, as well as a
major shopping center.  There are several large hotels within 10 minutes
walk.

Hotel and airline prices will depend on the season.  Spring and Fall would
probably be the least expensive.

The main problem would probably be finding a sponsor.

Robin Uyeshiro
Inst. for Astronomy
Univ. of Hawaii

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Subject: Re: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent


At 5:47 PM -0400 8/30/10, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:

 The obvious answer is to pick a location that is equi-distant or 
equally expensive for most people, and does not meet too often in 
one contintent.  There is such a place: Hawaii.  It is fairly 
mid-point between APAC and the Americas, and just slightly farther 
from Europe (well, a lot farther if you can't fly direct, but 
that's just due to airline routes, not 
distance-between-two-points). 

 Furthermore, it's not in any continent, and thus equal for all in 
that regard.  And it's a great tourist destination, and has plenty 
of meeting facilities, restaurants, Internet bandwidth, and no 
trains.  So this seems to address everyone's concerns.

 Therefore, I propose we meet in Hawaii (and Kauai in particular) from now
on.

Why Kauai?  You list detailed reasons why Hawaii is logical and 
solves for many of the problems, but you don't say why this island.

   We can even rotate islands if people get bored.

Well, there are extensive conference facilities on Oahu, the Big 
Island, Maui, and Kauai.  I have no information as to if they would 
work for a group of our size and with our need for breakout rooms.

-- 
Randall Gellens
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