see rfc 2418 - they are to keep a record as who is taking part in a WG's
activities
keeping track of attendees is a basic part of any standards development
organization's process
Scott
On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:04 AM, George, Wes wrote:
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Subject: Future Handling of Blue Sheets
2. Scan the blue sheet and include the image in the proceedings for the WG
session; and
3. Discard paper blue sheets after scanning.
[WEG] Based on some other messages in this thread, there seems to be a lack
of clarity as to the full, official purpose of the blue sheets. Are they
simply to track generic participation levels for room sizing, or are they
also meant as a historical record of attendees to a given WG? It seems that
if they are being subpoenaed, and they are archived today, I tend to think
that they're meant to officially track attendees. I'd appreciate someone
correcting me if I'm wrong.
If blue sheets are meant to be an official record, then technically we should
document handling/scanning/storage procedures for WG chairs and the
secretariat such that this scan will be admissible in lieu of a paper copy
for any subpoena or other court proceeding. But if we're honest, I'm not sure
that they're of much use as an official record either way. Do we have
procedures today that would prevent tampering before the paper copy ends up
in an archive box? And even then, blue sheets and jabber logs (for remote
participants) are still ultimately a best-effort honor system, and therefore
there is no guarantee of their validity. I can remotely participate without
registering for the meeting, and can sign into Jabber as "Mickey Mouse" just
as easily as I can sign the blue sheet that way. I can also sign as "Randy
Bush" or sign my own name completely illegibly.
Could we simply do a headcount for room sizing, and treat the matter of
official attendee record for WG meetings as a separate problem? IMO, it's not
currently solved by the blue sheets, and I don't see that changing just
because we dispense with the paper copies in a box in a warehouse.
Thanks
Wes George
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