During the IESG discussion of this thread, we recognized the quality of the
information on the blue sheets. This point was made very clearly at the open
mic discussion at the plenary and on the mail list.
Some people voiced agreement with your position, and others supported the
posting of this information. As I said in my earlier message, the consensus is
quite rough. By my review of the thread, which was made more difficult by the
many off-topic postings, there is rough consensus for the inclusion of blue
sheet information in the proceedings.
Russ
On May 6, 2012, at 10:04 PM, David Morris wrote:
I consider that there is a significant difference between the information
provided in the registered attendee list and the individual blue sheets:
a) to the extent that the information on the blue sheet is valid, it
provides an hour by hour log of location, the overall list of attendees at
most indicates an individual was present to pick up their badge at some
point during the meeting.
b) the validity of the list of registered attendees has a higher degree
of probable validity because of the requirement for a significant payment
and the processes required to process that payment.
c) Individual blue sheets can suffer from any number of unintentional and
intentional issues which limit their factual validity but not the mischief
which can be caused by their easy online access.
d) Scanning and publication imports a validity to the data which is not
widely accepted by the community.
David Morris
On Sun, 6 May 2012, IETF Chair wrote:
David:
The list of participants and their addresses are already part of the
proceedings. The incremental difference shows which participants signed in
at each session.
Russ
On May 6, 2012, at 7:03 PM, David Morris wrote:
From my following of the topic, that concensus was really rough, in
particular the part about publishing the scans on-line. That represents
a significant difference in ease access which I think required more than
the very very rough concensus you seem to think you found.
On Sun, 6 May 2012, IETF Chair wrote:
We have heard from many community participants, and consensus is quite
rough on this topic. The IESG discussed this thread and reached two
conclusions:
(1) Rough consensus: an open and transparent standards process is more
important to the IETF than privacy of blue sheet information.
(2) Rough consensus: inclusion of email addresses is a good way to
distinguish participants with the same or similar names.
Based on these conclusions, the plan is to handle blue sheets as follows:
- Continue to collect email addresses on blue sheets;
- Scan the blue sheet and include the image in the proceedings for the WG
session;
- Add indication to top of the blue sheet so people know it will be part
of the proceedings; and
- Discard paper blue sheets after scanning.
On behalf of the IESG,
Russ