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Re: Architecture

2013-03-22 13:50:05
On 03/22/2013 09:50 AM, John Curran wrote:
On Mar 21, 2013, at 8:58 AM, Keith Moore 
<moore(_at_)network-heretics(_dot_)com> wrote:
...
Another result is that the Internet architecture has gone to hell, and we're 
now spending a huge amount of effort building kludges to fix the problems 
associated with other kludges.... and the new kludges will almost certainly 
create more problems resulting in a need for more kludges later.
Keith -
While I won't argue with the symptoms you describe, I'm not sure I'd attribute it
   to lack of diversity. Both wildly diverse and relatively homogeneous 
communities
   can still bifurcate on multiple approaches to solving any given problem, and 
if
   that happens repeatedly and at multiple layers, then we inevitably end up 
with a
   bit of a mess...  What you are seeing is more likely the result of applying 
relatively
   few architectural principles in weeding out possible solutions, i.e. more of 
the
   "let a thousand protocols bloom and the market will decide" approach 
generally
   taken when establishing working groups and deliverables.

I don't think we're in disagreement. I think that more diversity in IETF would help minimize the risk that some interests were shortchanged, but I certainly agree that another factor is a lack of understanding of, and respect for, the effect of certain changes on the Internet architecture.

Have we even tried to identify and advertise those architectural principles since the early days?

Keith

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