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Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process

2013-05-03 12:24:49
Dave Crocker <dhc(_at_)dcrocker(_dot_)net> wrote:
On 5/3/2013 7:29 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote:

Provide WG Chairs the monitoring tools they need to be proactive - Action 
Tracker, what do I need to do today data tracker  views.  Same for AD.

Same for authors and their mentors, if any.

The IETF already provides pretty good tools.  They could always be 
better, of course, but they almost certainly aren't essential.

   That much is probably true.

The issue with providing management assistance is to focus on managing 
the work.  That's an organizational orientation, not just a tracking 
thing.  It's about getting clarity of the work to be done and of getting 
folks to do the work of contributing, writing, reviewing, and debating 
in a timely manner, and achieving forward progress in a timely manner.

   That much is true.

Few working groups have enough detail to juggle to make this something 
that hinges on the tools.

   That, alas, is not true.

   I subscribe to a number of WG lists where they find a issue tracker
_quite_ essential to their work. And to most folks, the issue tracker
output is more confusing than helpful: you're never quite sure which
issue number something belongs under.

   The lists I subscribe to have as work items drafts where nothing
happens until IETF-week deadlines (and sometimes not even then!).

   It seems _very_ likely that some automated tools to point out the
inactivity would help...

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John Leslie <john(_at_)jlc(_dot_)net>