On 10/6/13 7:30 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
This is a VERY useful document, and I look forward to compelling my WG
participants to read it, with a pop quiz afterwards.
I've been exceedingly satisfied to hear this sort of thing from you and
the other folks who posted and talked to me about this.
The only issue I see is its length; while dedicated IETFers won't have a
problem reading such a lengthy document, the people who could benefit most -
new, potential or casual participants - will give up early, I fear.
Could we have someone take an editorial knife to it? Some of the descriptions
of situations are quite long, and there's a fair amount of repetition in the
document. Some of the paragraphs are quite long as well. I reckon 2-4 pages
could be saved, making it appealing to a much wider audience.
I would be really disappointed by this. Indeed, my primary target was
not at all new or casual participants; it was really intended for the
dedicated folks and the chairs. I hope this is the start of a serious
discussion in the IETF, not a primer for how the IETF works at a high
level. For newer folks, I'm fine with the idea that some of this can be
either incorporated into the Tao or the newcomer's orientation, or
separated into a smaller primer document. But I really believe the long
form is needed for real discussions among folks in the community.
Beyond that, the only suggestion I'd make is an alternate title -- "Why We Hum." Or maybe
"The Things We Hum And Do Not Say" (apologies to Jerry Maguire).
And here I was originally paying homage to Wittgenstein, though it even
got too long for that. Taken under advisement.
Now, off to tackle Dave's excellent (and extensive) review.
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