Re: Revision to Note Well (some history) - updated

oops - reviewing my logs, it was Jorge Contreras not Geoff Stewart, and John 
Klensin was part of
the initial (to blame) group

Scott

On Feb 7, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Scott O. Bradner <sob(_at_)sobco(_dot_)com> wrote:

> something that is being missed in this discussion
>
> the old “Note Well” does not do, nor was it intended to do, what people have 
> assumed it did
>
> the Note Well was developed, starting in about April 2000, to provide 
> classification
> on what should be considered a “contribution” to the IETF - at the time there
> was a lot of confusion - some people thought the 2026 IPR rules only applied 
> to
> Internet Draft submission and others thought it covered mailing list and 
> microphone statements - the Note Well was developed by me and the then IETF 
> lawyer,
> Geoff Stewart, with the help of Steve Coya and initially discussed at an IESG 
> retreat.
>
> a common feature of the proposed revisions (the IERTF one as well as the IESG 
> ones)
> is to expand the mission of the Note Well to actually say what you should DO 
> if you
> have IPR that an IETF working group would be better off knowing about
>
> note well that the above is a history lesson for context and should not 
> discus the
> current discussion thread other than to perhaps forestall a return to the 
> good old
> Note Well that was not, by itself, actionable
>
> Scott
>
> On Feb 7, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Scott Brim 
> <scott(_dot_)brim(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
>
> > I'm concerned that any abbreviated form will inadequately represent
> > the nuances of the full policy, and that if we create a single uniform
> > abbreviated version that must be shown at f2f meetings, that opens
> > loopholes. For example, possibly: "Well, yes I agreed to the Note
> > Well, but then in the meeting they showed a different version that
> > didn't cover X. I thought that took precedence."
> >
> > There are many ways the full Note Well is dealt with at this time,
> > most of them good. I don't think you'll get more attention paid to the
> > IPR policy by showing an abbreviated form.
> >
> > Scott

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