Re: Revision to Note Well

maybe the IESG has too strong a NIH phobia to do the simple thing and adopt 
what the IRTF did 

in any case the question of “participation” was debated long and hard in two 
IPR BOFs and on the IPR working list
with the result was to replace the idea participation with "any activity that 
was intended to affect the IETF Standards Process”

see draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-06.txt

Scott

On Feb 7, 2014, at 3:05 AM, Eggert, Lars <lars(_at_)netapp(_dot_)com> wrote:

> On 2014-2-6, at 20:35, Brian E Carpenter 
> <brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
> > "If you are aware that any contribution (something written, said, or 
> > discussed in any IETF context) is covered by patents or
> > patent applications, you must disclose that fact, or not participate in the 
> > discussion."
> >
> > That is still wrong, because it doesn't distinguish the case of 3rd party
> > disclosures, which are optional, from 1st party disclosures, which are
> > mandatory.
> Exactly. The new text does not address the issue.
>
> Lars
>
> PS: I'll again point to the IRTF statement, which does: http://irtf.org/ipr. 
> We'll make it available to the IETF for the low, low price of a round of 
> beers for the IRSG :-)

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