On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Eric Burger
<eburger(_at_)cs(_dot_)georgetown(_dot_)edu>
wrote:
Dave -
Feel free to run the analysis. I’m sure that the regular IEEE, ITU-T, and
W3C fees have been going up significantly more than 2% per year, while ours
have been 0% per year.
[MB] I just registered for a W3C meeting and that was $75.00/day and they
will be providing me a gluten-free lunch. So, that would be $600 for 6
meeting days. [/MB]
Hotel and travel costs are hotel and travel costs irrespective of
organization. While we regularly whine about venue, our choices have
historically not been bad compared to other, international SDOs.
You may recall I wanted to have at least a 1% increase in the meeting fees
year-over-year so that we would not have to have larger step functions. I
was overruled.
I would not want to waste our money on having Ray do the analysis, as I
would rather our money go towards the meetings, tools, and the RFC Editor.
As Ray points out, while it would make for great advertising to show how
well we have held costs low for participants, it will not affect the result
announced here.
- Eric
On Oct 1, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Ray Pelletier <rpelletier(_at_)isoc(_dot_)org>
wrote:
Dave,
On Oct 1, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Dave Crocker <dhc(_at_)dcrocker(_dot_)net>
wrote:
On 10/1/2014 7:43 AM, IETF Chair wrote:
Early Bird Fee $650 to $700, or 8%
...
The cause for the increase is a trend in rising costs.
Merely as a matter of normal due diligence, I suggest having the
proposal include a comparison against industry-wide meeting cost trends,
so that the IETF increase can be considered in terms of participant fees
at similar types of meetings for other groups.
In other words, does the increase for IETF attendees match the kinds of
increases being seen at other meetings?
This would certainly be an interesting exercise, but not particularly
relevant.
Registration revenue is but one part of the income structure that
includes
sponsorships, hotel commissions, and Internet Society contributions to
fund
meetings, RFC Services, the Secretariat, IASA, tools maintenance and
more.
Total expenses over the last 8 years have increased 32%, registration
fees 8%.
Sponsorships and ISOC are not bottomless wells from which we can draw
cash at will.
Other organizations are not structured as we are. It would not be an
apples to apples comparison.
Just an additional note that the IAOC and ISOC are reviewing ways to
achieve IETF sustainability, which I hope will lead to a diversification
of
income streams so that the IETF is not totally dependent on sponsors,
ISOC
and meeting attendees.
Best
Ray
d/
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net