On Dec 8, 2014, at 4:53 AM 12/8/14, Bob Hinden
<bob(_dot_)hinden(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 2014, at 12:22 AM, Randy Bush <randy(_at_)psg(_dot_)com> wrote:
So it should be possible to reach agreement on text changes that
would take this tone out of your reading.
I actually do not think that it should be published at all, as
I don't think it solves any problem that the IETF is currently
experiencing and I tend to think that it might lead to further
ossification of the organization. That is to say, I think
that the cost/benefit balance does not work out in favor of
publication.
i agree. i will not add a bunch of sarcastic analogies about
more bureaucratic bumph we just don't need.
i also agree with your suspicion that this is an attept to patch
a chairing problem. one suspects possible iesg unwillingness to
bite bullets.
I agree. The list of tasks assigned in this draft to the secretary should be
done by the w.g. chairs. If they can't do these tasks, then they shouldn't
be chairs.
Bob
I agree, as well. I've come to agree that there's no need for an update to RFC
2418 and no need to publish this document.
Anecdotally, the two WGs I am currently administering do not generate enough
admin work to warrant secretaries.
- Ralph