On 12 Apr 2016, at 12:49, Ted Lemon <mellon(_at_)fugue(_dot_)com> wrote:
Agree about Buenos Aires. We already do excellent virtual interims--I think
if your standard for whether we can do a virtual IETF is that virtual
interims work, we are already there.
I think that if we want to test this idea, what we need to do is designate
some future IETF virtual _now_, and then start preparing, rather than say
"oh, we should do a virtual" and then dither about when we might be ready.
We will never be so ready that a virtual IETF feels identical to an in-person
IETF, so let's just abandon that idea and get started on making a virtual
IETF that, while different, is still a success.
Sounds interesting, if something of a big leap to attempt. Is a larger wholly
virtual, multiple WG interim meeting a next step then?
Btw where do we get the virtual T-shirt? ;)
Tim
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Tim Chown
<tjc(_at_)ecs(_dot_)soton(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk
<mailto:tjc(_at_)ecs(_dot_)soton(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk>> wrote:
Hi,
To minimise the chances of a ‘Singapore’ happening again it would seem
prudent to
a) re-use previous successful meeting venues for the bulk of our meetings
(say, every 5 in 6 meetings); this is one criteria for meeting selection as
it stands anyway; that list might include venues like Prague, Berlin,
Vancouver, etc.; we’d need to be clear in what ‘successful’ means - the
meeting feedback forms provide one such mechanism;
b) be transparent at an early stage about where new venues might be, whether
by country or city, so there is a fair chance for people to give feedback; of
course, how such feedback is weighed is an open question, but at least it
would be there, and the IAOC can then make a decision ‘eyes wide open’.
In such a system, Buenos Aires would have been a ‘1 in 6’ venue. In that
light, I’d note that many people have said how much they enjoyed Buenos Aires
as a meeting place. And while the IAOC probably feel rather down over the
comments about Singapore, they should be praised for going out on something
of a limb in making the Buenos Aires selection. (And I’d add that the
enthusiasm and helpfulness of the LACNIC hosts was also fantastic.)
In terms of virtual meetings, I’d suggest we try to hold more interim WG
meetings, some completely virtually, and learn how to make those better. If
we can regularly hold good quality wholly virtual interim meetings, then we
can consider whether the same technology might be used for a larger meeting.
Tim
On 12 Apr 2016, at 00:54, Ted Lemon <mellon(_at_)fugue(_dot_)com
<mailto:mellon(_at_)fugue(_dot_)com>> wrote:
While I do not think it's true that we can entirely get away without doing
in-person meetings, I do agree with you that we can do better at doing
remote meetings. Perhaps we should let this unfortunate event drive us to
make the attempt.
If we were to attempt such a thing, how do you think it would work?