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Re: IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path forward and request for input

2016-05-25 11:59:04



On May 25, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson 
<swmike(_at_)swm(_dot_)pp(_dot_)se> wrote:

On Wed, 25 May 2016, Melinda Shore wrote:

Perhaps we should regard this as an opportunity to talk about which forms of 
bigotry we'll accommodate and which we won't.

We're accomodating bigotry all the time.

Compare:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Singapore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_the_United_States#Visa_exemption

Now tell me how many more participants enjoy a lot less hassle in order to 
attend Singapore compared to attending a meeting in USA? Notice also that 
this isn't theoretical or low risk hassle, this is actual hassle of having to 
go through a visa application process with all that means.

I went through a visa application process to attend the meeting in China, and 
there was no point in that process where I was concerned that I might be 
imprisoned for my race, religion, gender, sexual orientation or gender 
expression…  

Is that a real risk for IETF attendees who are applying for visas to attend 
U.S. meetings?  If so, in what way?  Or are you talking about annoying 
paperwork?

Margaret


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