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Re: I-D Action: draft-leiba-cotton-iana-5226bis-19.txt

2017-01-10 14:01:34
I agree with Brian below. I've recently seen other stuff muddled up by
this silly global replacement of "IANA" by "IANA Services".

In the case of the draft in question, it seems to me that at most one
statement like "IANA is instantiated by an IANA Services contractor."
or the like would be plenty. All other references can just be "IANA".

On the no IANA actions case, my understanding was that IANA wanted the
IANA Considerations section saying that no IANA actions were required
to stay in the document and subsequent RFC but that the IESG wanted it
removed on publication. I don't care. But if that disagreement is
still the same, then IESG should prevail. What I say in my documents,
which seems to work fine, is

          This document requires no IANA actions. RFC Editor: Please
remove this section before publication.

Thanks,
Donald
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Brian E Carpenter
<brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
Hi,

For IETF protocols, that role is filled by the
Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Services.
...
For IETF protocols, that role is filled by the
Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Services [RFC2860].

Sorry, but I find the replacement of "IANA" by "IANA Services" throughout
the draft to be both ugly and plain wrong.

Ugly, because it reads badly in almost every sentence where it occurs.
Sentences such as "IANA Services prefers that..." are bad English at best.

Wrong, because as far as the IETF and the IAB are concerned, the function
is performed by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, abbreviated as IANA.

The draft doesn't explain, what "IANA Services" is or are.
But it doesn't matter: this document is about what IANA does.

One part of the document is now simply absurd:

9.1.  When There Are No Actions

   Before an Internet-Draft can be published as an RFC, IANA Services
   needs to know what actions (if any) it needs to perform.  Experience
   has shown that it is not always immediately obvious whether a
   document has no actions, without reviewing the document in some
   detail.  In order to make it clear to IANA Services that it has no
   actions to perform (and that the author has consciously made such a
   determination), such documents should, after the authors confirm that
   this is the case, include an IANA Considerations section that states:

      This document has no actions.

Um, no, if the document has no actions it shouldn't be published.
This needs to either revert to its previous version

       This document has no IANA actions.

or for better style:

       This document requests no actions by IANA.

(The other changes in this version are fine.)

Regards
   Brian Carpenter