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Re: Somethin funny in Spam-land

1995-10-29 20:59:36
pkenna(_at_)vicnet(_dot_)net(_dot_)au (Paul Kenna) wrote in confusion:


And then there's Jim De Arras supporting Josh's contention with an almighty
AMEN.  Funny how his
mail reference suggests that he's mailing from a Pine account on
homer.iosphere.net not jmd(_at_)cube(_dot_)WestLab(_dot_)com as his mail 
address suggests.


"suggests"?  What does that mean?  I'm posting from dale.westlab.com, in the  
westlab.com domain, with cube.westlab.com as the mail server, aliased as  
"westlab.com", all are NeXTs.  I am using the "stock" NeXT mailer, NeXT Mail  
3.3 v118.2, as the header clearly shows.

Now I'm not against commercial use of the internet (I'm writing a masters
thesis on this very topic and have a virtual server under my own .com domain
in the US) but what I do object to is off topic large unsolicited postings.
The cretin who's running this spam has simply pissed off most of his
potential market by such a ham fisted approach and ignorance of accepted
practice.

Anyway don't fall for the trap of machine names in domains  suggesting a
country of origin "jp" when in fact the domain operates out of ottawa in
canada and it promoting a fax number in New York


And don't seek demons where none exist.

Paul Kenna

What I Posted:

To: csdayton(_at_)midway(_dot_)uchicago(_dot_)edu, 
postmaster(_at_)osak(_dot_)ac(_dot_)jp,tpcadmin(_at_)info(_dot_)tpc(_dot_)int
cc: Procmail(_at_)Informatik(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE,
SmartList(_at_)Informatik(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE, 
yoshio(_at_)osak(_dot_)ac(_dot_)jp

"Joshua's" post

From: Joshua Lewis <jlewis(_at_)iosphere(_dot_)net>
To: Paul Kenna <pkenna(_at_)vicnet(_dot_)net(_dot_)au>
cc: csdayton(_at_)midway(_dot_)uchicago(_dot_)edu, 
postmaster(_at_)osak(_dot_)ac(_dot_)jp(_dot_)iosphere(_dot_)net,
        tpcadmin(_at_)info(_dot_)tpc(_dot_)int, 
Procmail(_at_)Informatik(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE,
        SmartList(_at_)Informatik(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE, 
yoshio(_at_)osak(_dot_)ac(_dot_)jp(_dot_)iosphere(_dot_)net

"Jim's" post
Actually Jim appears to exist according to internic records as administrator
and tech support for Westlab domain)

Indeed, I am the owner of Westlabs.  I do exist, Internic or no.  Do you?


From: Jim De Arras <jmd(_at_)cube(_dot_)WestLab(_dot_)com>
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 95 09:58:10 -0500
To: Joshua Lewis <jlewis(_at_)iosphere(_dot_)net>
Subject: Re: ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 295+ Popular USA
      Titles
Cc: Paul Kenna <pkenna(_at_)vicnet(_dot_)net(_dot_)au>, 
csdayton(_at_)midway(_dot_)uchicago(_dot_)edu,
        postmaster(_at_)osak(_dot_)ac(_dot_)jp(_dot_)iosphere(_dot_)net, 
tpcadmin(_at_)info(_dot_)tpc(_dot_)int,
        Procmail(_at_)Informatik(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE,
        SmartList(_at_)Informatik(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE, 
yoshio(_at_)osak(_dot_)ac(_dot_)jp(_dot_)iosphere(_dot_)net
References: 
<Pine.BSD/(_dot_)3(_dot_)91(_dot_)951029092825(_dot_)7490A-100000(_at_)homer(_dot_)iosphere(_dot_)net>
Content-Length: 136



My, but do we need lessions in header parsing!  Yes, my message REFERENCED  
<Pine.BSD/(_dot_)3(_dot_)91(_dot_)951029092825(_dot_)7490A-100000(_at_)homer(_dot_)iosphere(_dot_)net>,
 as the message  
I was replying to, but my actual message-id  was  
<9510291458(_dot_)AA11652(_at_)cube(_dot_)WestLab(_dot_)com>

Get your Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 (from your header) program to show you  
all the header lines, as a start.

I suggest a liberal greasing next time you stick your head so far up your ass.

And attack the substance of my brief message, not the perceived or actual  
method of the mailing.

I'm sick of the whole spam topic, the spams themselves pale in comparison to  
the massive effluent that follows them.

The spams just don't bother me, they are one entry in my mail list.  If they  
bother you, do something about them, just leave my mailbox out of it.  And  
spend your effort on the actual spammers, rather than trying to denigrate  
those that just don't give a shit.

As I said before, "Grow up and get a life, folks!"



PAUL KENNA
BEc LLB GCBA GDBA CPA
pkenna(_at_)vicnet(_dot_)net(_dot_)au
webmaster(_at_)auservices(_dot_)com


Jim