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Re: how to filter out threads that I initiated or I participated in?

2009-04-08 16:40:49
* Zhengquan Zhang <zhang(_dot_)zhengquan(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> [04-08-09 16:14]:
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 03:59:12PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

I use mutt to reply mailing list emails using my gmail address and the
email would appear new in the gmail inbox..


are you sending the mail thru gmail (smtp.gmail.com), or thru your
internet provider's mail system?

I don't understand the difference in these two situation.

you have explained immediately below this that you are using gmail
smtp service, host smtp.gmail.com.

But I am using postfix to sendmail from mutt. 
I used to use msmtp to sendmail and I remember that I have put 

account gmail
host smtp.gmail.com
port 587
from zhang(_dot_)zhengquan(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com
auth on
user zhang(_dot_)zhengquan(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com

in .msmtprc

but now I am using postfix and I am not providing this info anymore to
postfix resource files.


What is the result of the command line:
  grep relayhost /etc/postfix/main.cf



I can put *any* address I wish in the "From:" line and it will appear
in the header, but does not mean that is where the mail is actually
from.

Ah! I didn't know this, that said, a spammer can put my name in the from
line and in fact it was not me sending the spam?


certainly, happens all the time.  I reject those emails in my system.


Then explain your confusion that we may make things clear.  Your
deference to "confusion" is helping no one, especially your
understanding to the situation.

Thanks, I thought the reason I had some confusion is that I had no
relevant concepts. I will explain them more precisely in the future.


comcepts of ??


If you post to this mail list via a gmail address and using gmail's
smtp, you will not see your post in the list mail on gmail's web mail
or via their imap server as it is a duplicate of your original post.
Gmail stores that post under "sent mail" and nowhere else.

That is very true! if I send or reply list mails on gmail web interface,
it is not listed as new. But now I am using postfix to send mails.


BUT, if you are using "smtp.gmail.com" to post your mail, you haven't
changed anything with respect to gmail and your "sent mail".  And I
believe that the information I requested earlier "grep relayhost..."
will show that you *are* still using "smtp.gmail.com".

Who is your isp and what is it's email system addresses.  I use gmail
but my isp is RoadRunner and my email system addresses are:
   smtp-server.indy.rr.com
   pop-server.indy.rr.com
and the result of "grep relayhost /etc/postfix/main.cf" on my system is:
   relayhost = [smtp-server.indy.rr.com]

If you do not have a "relayhost" defined in your main.cf, I don't
believe that gmail will handle your posts.  AIUI, you must deliver
your own mail and most mail systems reject dynamic host addresses, or
you must relay your mail thru a recognized host such as smtp.gmail.com
or, as in my case, smtp-server.indy.rr.com.  In your case it would be
via your isp's smtp service.


To see these posts in list mail, you must follow the procedure I
offered earlier.

If you do not understand this, confusion, question that which you do
not understand so we may explain.

Thanks once again for your detailed explanation.

If understanding is not reached, it is of little value.  :^)

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