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On Friday 16 July 2004 09:32 am, Chuck Mead wrote:
Chuck Mead wrote:
| For those of you who are lurking on the IETF list please read my last
| post to that list. "Re: Licensing issues" in response to
| pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com(_dot_) For my part I've had enough of these
guys and
| their instantaneous push back on the license discussion. As a class
| these corporate guys *ALL* seem to think we've got no point and they
| really do not seem to care about any possible encumbrance of this
| future RFC. If you haven't posted I recommend that you *do* they need
| to understand that this is a real issue and I don't think we should let
| them tell us to shut up!
|
| I was very tempted to start talking about whose technology the net runs
| on anyway (majority is OSS) but I just didn't want to throw more fuel
| on the "tin foil hat" argument.
Chris Haynes added to my "last post" smack down on the IETF list. Let's
keep it going... the pressure needs to be more intense IMHO.
I think you guys are pushing a little too hard. Let Microsoft's lawyers
think about it for a while, and let the business people think about it some
more.
Stalling tactics work against them because the technology can't be adopted
without their compliance.
I am pretty sure they are going to release the patent to the public domain,
or remove their proposal. All they really want is to be dubbed "the eternal
solver of spam and all internet ills". They don't need even more bad PR
from the internet.
If they decide to push back on the patent issues, watch MARID drop their
algorithm quicker than spit. If MARID drops it, they are irrelevant.
Or, even if MARID adopts a patent-encumbered technology, watch MARID be
dropped quicker that spit. IETF can be rendered irrelevant quite easily.
The internet community does not like patents, and that isn't changing any
time soon.
Even though tin-foil hats should be donned, in the worst case scenario we
still win. Remember we are negotiating from a position of power - 100,000
domains and counting. Microsoft is looking for our approval, looking for a
way to claim that 100,000 as their own. That's all.
So keep the arguments logical and the posts polite. They can see what you
really mean when you use corporate double talk.
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Jonathan M. Gardner
Mass Mail Systems Developer, Amazon.com
jonagard(_at_)amazon(_dot_)com
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