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[mailto:owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com] On Behalf Of Frank
Ellermann
Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
Please save yourselves the effort. The standards will be
ratified in
another venue shortly.
The last time I checked it Verisign held only the IAB chair,
but not a IAB majority. That's why you lost the sitefinder
war, and why you'll maybe lose .net. I strongly advise
against SPF strategies built only on the combined powers of
Verisign and MicroSoft.
As a matter of fact the IAB chair recused herself from that discussion.
There is overwhelming support for SPF, it is a de facto standard and is in
the process of deployment in its current form.
It is neither possible nor desirable to waste time on binary encodings at
this point. They are not viable for the same reason that XML was not viable,
the water has passed under the bridge.
I know you don't find dealling with large companies easy, but they do at
least share an interest in getting something done. They have products to
launch and deadlines to meet.
Otherwise it would be easier to submit Wayne's draft (TXT
instead of new SPF RR) directly to the RfC-editor bypassing
the IETF completely. But the RfC editor would then have to
ask the IESG about it, and get a veto.
Why are you obsessing about one standards group with negligible deployment
influence whose price of recognition appears likely to be destroying the
whole project?
You can do just as well by setting up your own standards group like we did
with the Web consortium when the IETF started to become a threat to the
success of the Web.
I think that you are under-rating yourselves. Don't set up an SPF Leadership
Council, call it the Accountable Messaging Standards Group, then ratify the
spec yourselves. Whatever flaws there might be in SPF are probably beyond
redemption at this point. Hold elections for the leadership and you will be
instantly more credible than the IETF.
The importance of a standards body is who takes part and who listens to it.