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Re[2]: OT: education needed

2004-11-30 00:39:51
I'm  quitting  this  discussion  right  now but I still would really
appreciate  it  if  someone  can find the time to tell Bruce that he
cannot     validate     alex(_at_)slot(_dot_)hollandcasino(_dot_)net    by    
probing
alex(_at_)193(_dot_)172(_dot_)40(_dot_)25  (with or without brackets doesn't 
seem to matter
according to bruce).

Of  course,  the  brackets  do matter, so I have to concentrate on the
legitimate  form  user(_at_)[ip(_dot_)ad(_dot_)dr(_dot_)es](_dot_) An 
illegitimate RCPT format such
as user(_at_)ip(_dot_)ad(_dot_)dr(_dot_)es should always be rejected (though 
it's not by many
MTAs, of course).

And  I  don't see where 193.172.40.25 is relevant to any discussion of
slot.hollandcasino.net,  as  it  is  neither  an  A  nor an MX for the
domain. Whether or not it happens to be the domain's mailbox server is
unknowable (unless you use SRV records, et al., which is not germane).

But  _even  if_  you were dealing with 193.172.40.25 and had reason to
trust  that  it's a mailbox server for domain example.com, it does not
follow  that  user(_at_)[193(_dot_)172(_dot_)40(_dot_)25]  will  verify  the  
LHS against all
domains for which the box performs local delivery.

Bruce  can  verify this with his own virtual-hosting MTA. SMTPD32 will
only  check  its  primary virtual host--the virtual host with the same
official  host  name  as  the global SMTPD32 installation--for address
literals.  That  is,  you  can  have  example.com,  example2.com,  and
example3.com  all  hosted independently on the same box. If the OHN is
example.com,  then user(_at_)[ip(_dot_)ad(_dot_)dr(_dot_)es] will only perform 
one lookup: in
the   example.com   userbase.   A   failure  does  not  indicate  that
user(_at_)example2(_dot_)com and user(_at_)example3(_dot_)com do not exist.

Perhaps this will help.

--Sandy


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Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
e-mail: sandy(_at_)cypressintegrated(_dot_)com
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