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Re: DNS load research

2005-03-27 07:27:24
Radu Hociung wrote:

 ["anticidr"]
While the first one does not require queries, it is very
space inefficient.

Yes, and hard to read / debug manually.  OTOH my "personal SPF
ideology" is that a receiver is only interested in FAILs.

The possible FAIL and rejecting mails before they go into more
expensive checks like SURBL is IMNSHO the main reason, why a
receiver would consider to use SPF at all.  That's the part I
like most in this "m=" thread, you want some simple FAILs fast.

The second one requires at least one query.

It's more like "exactly one additional query", -include:not.me
at the begin of a policy, and for the "included" not.me policy
you have enough bytes for really complex cases, "v=spf1 +all"
are 11 char.s, the remaining 400+ bytes can be weird CIDRs like
"-ip4:12.34.123.234/21", about 21+1 char.s per CIDR.

About 20 CIDRs for you to define "not.me" with this trick.  So
that's IMHO good enough to drop the "m=" idea, because it only
saves one query if the complete "not.me" stuff fits into the
"main" policy.

If you need any redirect= or similar only because the m= gets
too long, you could always use a simple -include:not.me trick.

In other words, I like the idea behind "m=" and think we should
get it into Andy's "SPF cookbook", but I prefer Greg's solution
-include:not.me instead of a new "m=" modifier.  SPF is already
burdened with too many mechanisms and modifiers, it's not the
time to add a new essentially redundant "m=".

[ Not for you, but general:  I'm on record since at least nine
  months, that the top priority before anything else should be
  to get a proper RfC for v=spf1 "as is" modulo some necessary
  fixes.  It's really difficult for me to concentrate on new
  ideas for spf2.0 (or v=spf2) while v=spf1 is not ready.  This
  is just my bi-weekly rant and has nothing to do with "m=". ]

                       Bye, Frank




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