In <MAIL01Y6oXaQKRP3psN00002aaf(_at_)mail01(_dot_)3amlabs(_dot_)net> "Gabor
Tokaji" <gabor(_dot_)tokaji(_at_)3amlabs(_dot_)com> writes:
Sure. I use Outlook Express to retrieve messages from hotmail, and
then it's the usual way.
Ah. That doesn't appear to be an option for the free hotmail
accounts. I'm interested enough intesting MS's setup to sign
up for hotmail, but not to pay money for it.
I use a free account. I think there was an administrative message from
hotmail's staff about this opportunity (using OE to access hotmail) being
phased out, but kept for the foreseeable future for users of existing
accounts. So, if you have had a hotmail account for a good while, and used
outlook express to retrieve mail, it's still available.
I signed up for my first hotmail account eariler this month when John
Glube said Hotmail was checking SenderID. I forgot the password, so I
signed up with a new one yesterday to do testing.
As for the headers - <sigh> here they are. [...]
X-Message-Status: n
X-SID-PRA: Gabor Tokaji <gabor(_dot_)tokaji(_at_)3amlabs(_dot_)com>
X-SID-Result: TempError
X-Message-Info: 6sSXyD95QpWUFvDbmNi2+f3k2GauDuKrmVntVfHnLKU=
Received: from mail01.3amlabs.net ([213.134.11.178]) by mc5-f5.hotmail.com
with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211);
Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:54:43 -0700
Received-SPF: none (mail01.3amlabs.net: 192.168.0.125 is neither permitted
nor denied by domain of 3amlabs.com) client-ip=192.168.0.125;
envelope-from=gabor(_dot_)tokaji(_at_)3amlabs(_dot_)com; helo=gtokaji2;
Received: from gtokaji2 ([192.168.0.125]) by mail01.3amlabs.net with
Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830);
Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:54:20 +0200
From: "Gabor Tokaji" <gabor(_dot_)tokaji(_at_)3amlabs(_dot_)com>
To: <gtokaji(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>
[...] Again, note the failure seemingly
occuring on the internal email address. As if the system expected the
192.168.0.125 address to be found in the DNS as an allowed smtp server. Get
it? 192.168.0.125 is my desktop. The mailserver has the 213.134.11.178 IP
address of course.
If I read the headers correctly, the Received-SPF header was added by
mail01.3amlabs.net and it is the one seeing the 192.168.0.125
address. Why it would mail01.3amlabs.net would return a "none"
result, I'm not sure.
The checking done by hotmail would, hopefully, be done on the
213.134.11.178. Unfortunately, hotmail doesn't add a Received-SPF:
header, so it is very hard to tell what it is doing or why it would
get a "TempError" result.
On what I think is an unrelated subject, I see that your SPF record is:
3amlabs.com. 21600 IN TXT "v=spf1 mx a:mail.3amlabs.com
mx:mail.3amlabs.com ip4:213.134.11.178 ip4:213.134.0.121 ip4:12.110.136.130
-all"
I don't think the "mx:mail.3amlabs.com" mechanism is doing what you
want since mail.3amlabs.com has no MX records. I'm guessing you want
just "mx" (or "mx:3amlabs.com", which is eactly the same thing, but
longer).
-wayne