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Re: Sender ID (was Re: [spf-discuss] nobody @ xyzzy)

2006-02-22 18:24:09
On 02/22/2006 20:06, John Kelly wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:26:09 -0500, Scott Kitterman
<spf2(_at_)kitterman(_dot_)com> wrote:

Now people will argue over this.  Some see this as legitimate reuse, some
see it as abuse.  That's why I said reuse/abuse in my message.  To my
point of view, any scheme like this which is opt-out is an abusive
situation.

You call it opt-out like it's some kind of spam scheme.  It's only a
burden to mail admins, not their end users.  Mail admins need to stop
griping and get with it.


Perhaps I see it differently as a small domain owner.  I am both the admin and 
the user, so to me that's a distinction without a difference.

To my mind the moral implications of opt-out are the same for SID and spam.  I 
don't expect everyone else to agree, but that's my view.  If I do SPF, I risk 
getting my messages rejected because of SID.  And the key is that the 
"fixing" needs to be done by someone else not me.  In this example, it's a 
Listbox issue, not mine.  Publishing a PRA record wouldn't help me unless I 
manually added every non-Sender compliant mailing list I'm on to the record.

SID is an 80% solution in my book and that just isn't good enough.  If you 
want protection in the message body, have a little patience and join the DKIM 
mailing list and help make sure they get that right:

http://mipassoc.org/dkim/index.html

I think that's the approach for the message body that's the most likely to be 
effective.

Scott K

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