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Re: [spf-discuss] spamcop and DSN

2006-08-29 14:04:59
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Stuart D. Gathman wrote:

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, wayne wrote:

In the past, I have talked with spamcop folks about SPF issues.  They
may well be willing to make some changes.  It may be very possible
that they would be willing to publish "v=spf1 -all" records on the
domains that are used exclusively for spamtraps.  I think it is highly
doubtful that they will be willing to stop counting backscatter as a
listable offense.

Ok, I will request that.  I wonder if spammers would simple stop forging
domains with -all?  I suppose that would be a good thing...
In my book, a DSN is not backscatter if the sender provides no way
to recognize forgeries.

I can't find where to request that.  They simply bring up their FAQ
about why DSNs to forged email are bad.  Duhhh.  Be nice if they
provided a way to detect the forged email.  They say their clients asked
them to block backscatter.  If publishing a -all SPF record is too hard,
you'd think they would use SRS or BATV to block the backscatter.

I'm trying to think of a policy that will keep everyone happy.  
Send DSN only for SPF NONE?  Those senders are the ones who can't
get the SMTP REJECT.  They suggest a reasonable workaround: send
DSNs from a different IP.  I think I can make pymilter do that.
Sigh - not like I had nothing to work on.

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