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Re: [spf-discuss] MS Puts SID Patents Under Open Specification Promise

2006-10-23 21:34:21

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Alex van den Bogaerdt wrote:

On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 02:35:11PM -0700, william(at)elan.net wrote:

Feel free to discuss publicly now if and if/how this can effect SPF.

Well...

I have a hard time understanding all the text they wrote, but my
initial thought is that they granted everybody the right to use
their rfc 4408 without having to worry about microsoft's patents.

More or less. One issue that worries in general about this page is
 "Microsoft irrevocably promises not to assert any Microsoft Necessary
  Claims against you for making, using, selling, offering for sale,
  importing or distributing any implementation to the extent it conforms
  to a Covered Specification"
i.e. they only cover if it is based on the technology document that is
authorized by Microsoft and confirms to it. For SPF however the actual
SPF specification (RFC4408) is listed as well, so I suppose it means
we're covered... But what would that mean if we release new document
for new version of of SPF standard?


"...
Security Technologies

This promise applies to all existing versions of the following specifications:

Notice again the use of "existing versions" - see my comment above...

[...]
RFC 4408 - Sender Policy Framework: Authorizing Use of Domains in ÿÿMail Fromÿÿ
[...]
"
So, not only do they abuse existing SPF records in an inappropriate,
incompatible way (by applying SPF records to RFC822 "From:"), now they
explicitly claim rights on rfc 4408.

Yes, that is another issue that worries me. By listing SPF document among
the SID documents that rely on PRA they in a way claim that they have some
patent rights that may apply to it. D

I'm sure people will tell me if I see this the wrong way. Go ahead please.

If the council agrees with me: what is going to be done?

We discussed it briefly and did not have any consensus on what may need to
be done. We may end up discussing this again if there appears to be support
for certain action from SPF community in general.

--
William Leibzon
Elan Networks
william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net

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