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Re: Showstopper from EUnet for RFC-MIME

1992-03-10 14:01:16
On Mon, 09 Mar 92 13:17:13 PST, 
jknowles(_at_)binky(_dot_)arc(_dot_)nasa(_dot_)gov wrote:
"Iso-2022-jp" was removed from MIME, and there were no public
protests, partly because there are so few Japanese on this list, but
also because the Japanese will continue to use their JUNET encoding
for some time, no matter _what_ MIME says.

No, Iso-2022-jp was removed for the same reason mnemonic was removed,
lack of a published specification acceptable to the IESG for citation
within the MIME document.  It had nothing to do with the presence or
absence of Japanese on the list.

Well, I do not know exactly what was the reason.
If it was a formal problem with references, why could that not
be solved? I do not think that there have been real constructive
proposals on the table from IESG on how to solve the problem, although
they should have known that it was a problem.

If they need a publication with mnemonic with an ISBN number on it,
that would be quite easy to accomodate.

I will consider it a show-stopper if mnemonic is reinserted without an IESG-
acceptable citation but ISO-2022-JP is not.  I see no reason to coddle the
racist attitude that European languages are important but East Asian languages
are not.

Oh, please. We are looking after our interests, and you are free
to do the same - in the manner you would see efficient for your
purposes.

Quite frankly, Japan is far more important than all of Scandanavia put
together.  This is even more the case when you include the folks on the ISO-
2022-?? working group from the Republic of Korea and the Republic of China on
Taiwan who are working hard to come up with compatible extensions to ISO-2022-
JP to support Korean and Chinese as well.

EUnet is not Scandinavia. Eunet is 24 countries in Europe and
North Africa.

Anyway I would not belittle the needs for the cultures that you mention.

Those of us working on ISO-2022 are trying to play ball with the IESG.  If the
Europeans do not wish to play ball, then let them sulk in a corner and not
have anything that works for them.  It's an annoyance to have to do things the
IESG's way, and it's worth doing only if everybody follows the rules too.

I think we are playing the game to the rules, too.
A show-stopper is a part of the game.

keld