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Re: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar

2008-09-16 12:30:52

In <g9v812$aco$1(_at_)ger(_dot_)gmane(_dot_)org> "Frank Ellermann" 
<nobody(_at_)xyzzy(_dot_)claranet(_dot_)de> writes:

Tony Hansen wrote:

msg-id          =   [CFWS] "<" msg-id-core ">" [CFWS]
msg-id-core     =   id-left "@" id-right
But it *is* an extremely late request.

Yes, and it could cause some confusion for two (or soon
three) NetNews RFCs in the pipeline.  I'd prefer to do
this later (= in the promotion to STD), and not as some
last minute hack with unclear consequences.

Sorry, I have just returned from holiday to find all this fuss.

I disagree totally with Frank on this one.

draft-ietf-usefor-usefor-12.txt currently contains:

   message-id      =  "Message-ID:" SP *WSP msg-id *WSP CRLF

   msg-id          =  "<" msg-id-core ">"
                      ; maximum length is 250 octets

   msg-id-core     =  id-left "@" id-right

which is effectively the same as what Tony proposed, bar the usual Netnews
compulsory SP after the ':'.

We currently have the situation whereby <message-id> is differently
defined in the two documents, so I cannot see why Frank should object to
having <msg-id-core> defined differently in the two places (in fact, in
USEFOR it is <id-left> and <id-right) which are defined differently).

There can be only one <msg-id-core>, and it's specified
in an approved NetNews RFC at the moment.  Referenced
in an approved news URI RFC, and in the now Last Called
NetNews protocol.

My own personal preference, now that 2822-bis has tidied the syntax of
<msg-id> to the extent that only one very minor difference exists from
what USEFOR should be like, would be to pull back the USEFOR draft and
rebase it on 2822-bis (which would remove from it some exceedingly ugly
syntax which, with the new 2822-bis, is now totally unnecessary). But that
is a matter for the USEFOR WG to decide.

So this is a belated +1 for Tony's change.

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