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Re: [Asrg] New take on emerging idea. (yet another C-R system?)

2003-04-07 15:23:22
From: wayne
> An Idea poped into my head the other day, about E-stamps, and
> whitelists, and i think i have combined them in a way that truly has a
> chance to stop spam. I would apreciate any suggestions.
>
> my plan is at www.pontifier.com

I suggest that you research previous spam ideas more.  While I didn't
read ever detail of your plan, this appears to be basically the age-old
challenge-response system.  This kind of system has been discussed at
length on this mailing list.

Thankyou Wayne. Indeed I had never herd of Challenge-Reponse systems before.
I did do lots of research on e-stamps, then on basean filters, and through that discovered RBLs, and trusted networks. then got pissed off when I found out that some of my mail may not get though, even though I don't filter it, because someone else probly is.



If this is not a basic c-r system, please explain why it is different
than the last half dozen similar proposals.  Otherwise, I doubt too
many people will bother considering your system.
-wayne

After searching I find that almost all Challenge response systems I can find seem to have a drawback that mine(kind of) sidesteps. They rely on some kind of standard server generated test like the one used by yahoo when you sign up for an email account(obscured character recognition). These are annoying, and it is true that some people would view it as an impediment to communication.

The minor change which I proposed shifts the burden of challenge formation from the server to the user. the challenge has become not just a challenge, but a first return COMMUNICATION from the user. And anyone seeking COMMUNICATION with the user will have no problem responding to the challenge.

I guess the other major problem with Challenge-Response systems is handling lists(not sending challenges to them, yet not blocking them either), but I think I have that solved as well. I will update the plan as soon as I am sure.
www.pontifier.com
-John






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