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Re: [ietf-dkim] brand protection, was Is anyone using ADSP?

2009-10-14 12:31:46
On 10/14/09 7:10 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote:


Ian Eiloart wrote:
OK. What ADSP adds is the ability to assign reputation to a specific email
claiming to originate from a specific domain. Except for "unknown".

A DKIM signature says nothing about "origination".  A signature is typically 
by
an organization that handles the message, but it need not be the originator or
even a sender.  An independent trust service, such as Goodmail, could sign it,
for example.


  It's not really a DKIM issue, but if I get email from
paypal.co.uk, then how do I determine whether that email is from paypal?

Mapping from a domain name to a brand name or company name or the like is 
indeed
an interesting topic.  As you say, it has nothing to with DKIM.

Agreed.  But this does affect ADSP, the DKIM policy layer. It is not 
practical to have all agents that might operate on behalf of some domain 
to have previously exchanged keys allowing them to position selectors at 
or below the Author Domain.

Currently, most DKIM recommendations in these cases depend upon 
reputation services as a means for recipients to make acceptance 
decisions, which mostly works.  However, a reputation service is twice 
removed from that of an Author Domain that may wish to assert a DKIM 
policy that might be seen as being restrictive.

Even slight restrictions make other agents appear to be in conflict with 
the Author Domain policy.  Unfortunately, only rarely are Author Domains 
not dependent upon a number of other agents that have not previously 
shared keys in some manner. Nor would it be practical or safe for an 
Author Domain to widely share their keys in some manner.

There is a way to solve this DKIM policy problem without always needing 
to rely upon reputation services, or the impractical and unsafe sharing 
of keys.

-Doug
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