Why isn't the Internet and 3D technology used for the IETF meetings ?
The Next Generation IPv8 Internet has that. Why is the IPv4 Internet
stuck in the stone ages ?
All of the technology is in place and Address Space is FREE.
2047 IPv8 Blocks have been FREEly allocated to IN-ADDR.<TLD> managers.
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
On October 25, 2001 Microsoft will launch Windows XP which supports IPv8
Addressing. Companies like New.Net are making it possible for people to
register
IN-ADDR.<TLD> names. Companies like TuCows are helping to break down
the .COM monopoly with .INFO names.
http://www.IN-ADDR.INFO
The .BIZ Community is growing. It is time to build a new Internet based on
fair IP allocations. The Proof-of-Concept work on the IPv4 Internet can
continue,
but true pioneers need to move on. The technology is now in place to route
around
the I* organizations, "It Seeks Overall Control".
http://www.dot-biz.com/Registry/ProofConcept/index.html
Do you use a 2002:<IPv4>:0000 prefix ?
http://www.dot-arizona.com/IPv8/IPv4/
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12213.html
JimFleming(_at_)Unir(_dot_)com
http://www.unir.com
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/sdks/platform/tpipv6/start.asp
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12213.html
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12223.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Resnick" <presnick(_at_)qualcomm(_dot_)com>
To: <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: participation in IETF meetings
On 10/23/01 at 9:49 AM -0400, RJ Atkinson wrote:
Many have been the meetings where folks who want to actively
participate in that meeting are unable to get in or unable to sit
down.
I'm sorry, but I really think this is a problem with the
person/persons chairing the meeting. If you are the chair of a
working group whose meeting room is too small, you've got some
choices:
1. If this happened in the past, you need to ask for a bigger meeting
room. However, I understand this is not always possible.
2. Before your WG meeting, ask on the mailing list (which all active
participants should be reading anyway) for all people who are
planning on attending the meeting and actively participating to send
you a piece of e-mail. Count. When you get to the room at the
meeting, count off that many seats in the front rows. Add 10 for
useful IESG/IAB members. Add a bunch if you know your WG is going to
have cross-area interest where some people will be attending who
don't subscribe to the WG list. Cordon off the section with some
paper signs which read "ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS ONLY". No, it won't stop
everyone, but it will help things.
3. If people are blocking the door during the meeting, be a traffic
cop. Go to the door and say, "If you are staying, move in to the
opposite side of the room away from the door. Otherwise, leave." The
area behind where the chair usually sits is a fine place to stick
people. If it gets totally out of hand, you may have to conduct the
meeting by standing in the door; people who are just loafing hate
sitting right next to the chairperson anyway.
4. (Up on soapbox again) Do not allow lecture-style presentations in
your WG meeting, or at the very least do not let anyone present
introductory material which could be posted to the list. These kinds
of things encourage people to come to the meeting to try to learn.
That's not why we're having these meetings. There should be NO NEW
INFORMATION presented at WG meetings. If at least an introduction to
the topic has not been written up and posted to the list, discussion
of that topic should not be allowed in the WG meeting. The content of
a WG meeting should be without surprise.
Personally, I think this is a fine idea for BOFs too: You're posting
an agenda before the meeting anyway; make sure any needed information
is written up and posted before the meeting and make sure that the
agenda has URLs for that information. Now, I understand that BOFs are
in a somewhat different position and sometimes there's going to have
to be presentation of new material in BOF meetings, but that needn't
always be the case. WGs, of course, have no excuse.
pr
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Pete Resnick <mailto:presnick(_at_)qualcomm(_dot_)com>
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