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Re: way out of the DNS problems? (former Re: delegation mechanism, Re: Trees have one root)

2002-08-02 12:13:28

On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:

I translate this to mean that (1) we can point to any root we want (true,
but not real relevant for Joe Clueless User) and/or (2) the root servers
could choose to mirror something other thand the DOC root (true in theory
but not real likely in practice, cf. discussion of root server operators
in
http://personal.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/articles/formandsubstance.pdf

[My last comment on this thread today, I promise]

or 3) joe clueless gets an education and switches to an appropriate route.
i was once a joe clueless long before you joined the picture along with
the other 300 million users who are online today.  you too were a joe
clueless once and now you have gratuated to froomkin cluedin.

i admit - these days most of the internet population is very juvenile.
most of you are in your pre teens in terms of internet development age.
but that will change - alot of froomkin clued in types are on the way.

so don't ever discount joe clueless or be so presumptive as to discount
them.  as i have said - and as it has been cleared shown - control of the
"." is in the hands of joe clueless internet users - so in the end they
hold the power irrespective of law.

regards
joe


On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Joe Baptista wrote:


On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:

ICANN is not the controlling body for the ".".  That role belongs to the
US Dept. of Commerce.  It chooses to take ICANN's advice, but has no duty
to do so. Lengthy legal details at:

well i hate to say in the end the legal argument amount to alot of
jibberish.  i appreciate your hard work on behalf of the community but
your idea of control is flawed.  thats what happens when one spends more
time looking at law and misses the technical details.  everyone has made
that mistake.

the "." is in the control of the end users.  thats who has always been in
charge of ".".  the DOC is irrelevant with respect to control.  it's a
consumer choice.

now if every government on this planet wants to regulate what *.* their
users use - then i say fine - thats an experiment i would love to see
happen.  better then the fireworks i see all the time at del crary park.

but failing that complete technical control of "." is in the hands of the
internets end users.  thats where the power in "." resides.

regards
joe baptista



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