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Re:Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2005-01-03 12:55:08
Hi Hidega,

I think you should not take so seriously this type of comments in the IETF
mail exploder. I could had a similar or even stronger reaction ;-)

I guess they come as a way to complain about the lack of transparency in the
way a venue is chosen, against the rules explained in the IETF web page to
host a meeting, the excessive number of meetings being hold in US (were
every time is worst and worst traveling to), etc., etc..

I've tried to get Madrid hosting it for more than 4 years, and we still
didn't succeed. I'm also working for a possible venue in Latin America,
hopefully will not take 4 years ;-), possibly in Mexico.

So what I can say is that I'm very happy that Paris is hosting this meeting
and hope that some time Madrid has a similar opportunity, later we can think
in Barcelona, Acapulco, and some other places which definitively should not
be in US.

Regards,
Jordi




De: HIDEGA TIKU Lea RD-TCH-ISS 
<hidega(_dot_)tiku(_at_)francetelecom(_dot_)com>
Responder a: <ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Fecha: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:06:34 +0100
Para: <gwz(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>, <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
CC: <harald(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no>, <fred(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>, HIDEGA 
TIKU Lea RD-TCH-ISS
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Asunto: RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

Dear Glen Zorn


It is startling to see your remarks about, "Paris in August" as:

a. "deadly".  On your mail of 31/12/2004

b. "physical danger of meeting in Paris in August". On your mail of 31/12/2004

c. "the point is the question of why we seem to go out of our way to find
unpleasant weather for our meetings".  On your mail of 02/01/2005

So, what do you suggest?...

To use the unfortunate weather calamity of August 2003 in France is a
counterfeit reason to try and sabotage the work of many women and men working
hard to make this meeting the most agreeable possible. This is equivalent to
saying, not to go to New York because of 9/11 and not to ever go to Asia where
the Tsunami had happened.

I don't understand your motivation for acting this way; but, I would like to
discuss this issue with Cisco officials.

France Telecom, the host for the 63rd IETF August 2005 meeting, is paying for
the rental of the venue and provides the network. Therefore, on behalf of
France Telecom, I would like to insure the community that we are doing our
best to make this meeting the most effective, efficient and safe (not
"deadly") possible. We have reported the event to the security officials, and
I will post the messages.

Please let me know your remarks.

Hidega  

-----Message d'origine-----
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[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] De la part de Glen
Zorn (gwz)
Envoyé : vendredi 31 décembre 2004 07:06
À : ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Objet : Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

Paris in August:
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2003-09-25-france-heat_x.htm

~gwz

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