Re: Re: I'm not the microphone police, but ...

> Well, the one that really pushes my button is when someone, probably 
> a vendor, but even sometimes an operator, comes to the mic and says 
> "The Really Big SDO needs this work." Its impossible to know if this 
> person has any official standing at the Really Big SDO, or if it is 
> a possition that that person would just wish that SDO would take.
> John
Two related points here - one is that we do have "official liasions" 
on the IAB website (at http://www.iab.org/liaisons/index.html), so it 
is theoretically possible to identify these liasions, but not everyone 
knows about this, and not everyone thinks to look, and the second is 
that a number of interesting communities don't have an official 
liasion to/from the IETF, so John's statement very clearly applies in 
these cases.
These communities may not even be SDOs - they can be operator 
consortia, vendor consortia, industry consortia, or Lord knows what.
When I was attending 3GPP, Stephen Hayes was the official liasion, and 
in my experience he was VERY conservative about saying "this is what 
3GPP needs/wants/expects". Not everyone who stands at the microphone 
is as consciencious as Stephen. I was in one working group meeting 
yesterday where two people were arguing about the timeframe an 
external SDO really expects from the IETF - that's not helpful to the 
IETF or to the external SDO (who may get what it wants from the IETF, 
or what someone thought it should want).
Thanks,

Spencer 


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