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RE: [Ieprep] Re: WG Review: Recharter ofInternet Emergency Preparedness (ieprep)

2006-11-10 23:23:56
For one, I have yet to see a B2BUA (SBC) in any IETF document. They are
in every service provider network. So, not to reflect them is an
illusion as best. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott W Brim [mailto:swb(_at_)employees(_dot_)org] 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:31 PM
To: Sam Hartman
Cc: Dolly, Martin C, ALABS; Janet P Gunn; Robert G. Cole; 
ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
ieprep(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; Scott Bradner; Fred Baker; Pekka Savola
Subject: Re: [Ieprep] Re: WG Review: Recharter ofInternet Emergency
Preparedness (ieprep)

On 11/09/2006 18:43 PM, Sam Hartman allegedly wrote:
"Scott" == Scott W Brim <swb(_at_)employees(_dot_)org> writes:

    Scott> However, it is important that the IETF not *just* do
    Scott> protocols.  The IETF needs to consider how proposed
    Scott> "architectures" fit in with all the other requirements on
    Scott> the Internet.  The IETF doesn't do protocol engineering, it
    Scott> does Internet engineering.  It is fine for other
    Scott> organizations (not necessarily SDOs) to do service
    Scott> requirements and scenarios.  They can *propose*
    Scott> architectures.  If the IETF can support those architectures
    Scott> in ways that are consistent with overall Internet design,
    Scott> then fine.  Otherwise the IETF should not be restricted to
    Scott> just protocol extension/definition.  The IETF has to think
    Scott> of a bigger picture.


Completely agree.  I'd rather see architectures and systems proposed
elsewhere, reviewed by the ietf, and then us develop the protocols.
There may be some cases where we do architecture work; I don't think
this is one of them.

Please help me figure out the essential differences between
"architecture" that should be done in the IETF and "architecture" that
can be done elsewhere.

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