Re: IETF 72 --> Dublin!

All;
So, let me provide a little more background for the IAOC decision to 
hold IETF 72 in Dublin.
There were 3 venues under consideration - Geneva, Paris and Dublin. 

Each of these Cities had venues with available dates.  After 
pre-qualifying each, a meeting and tech qualification team visitied the 
Geneva and Dublin venues. An IETF meeting had previously been held at 
the Paris facility.
For the Geneva convention center under consideration, the hotel blocks 
were small and only one was within walking distance.  We would have 
needed to contract with approximately 10 hotels in order to meet minimum 
requirements of hotel block. Hotels were spread out, some in the city, 
while others (the larger hotels) were close to the airport.  Guest room 
rates were the most expensive of the three options.  Very likely that 
the meeting space costs could have been covered, but not the network 
infrastructure. No Host.
The Paris facility quoted the most expensive meeting space costs at over 
$200,000, as well as the most expensive food and beverage costs and 
second most expensive guest room rates.  Network infrastructure costs 
not covered. No Host.
The Dublin facility has a Host to cover meeting space costs, the Welcome 
Reception, as well as providing the network infrastructure for the 
meeting at its expense.  The Citywest HQ hotel has a large room block 
(1,000 on a peak night) and the best room rates of the three, as well as 
qualified meeting space and "from the technical perspective, City West 
is the recommended site" (input from the tech visit).  Biggest con - 20 
km from the city, which we will try to ameliorate by providing shuttle 
buses to the Temple Bar area of Dublin Monday through Thursday.
Dublin was recommended by the Meetings Subcommittee and selected by the 
IAOC.  It provides a good meeting facility and guest rooms under one 
roof, with a Host, and the least financial risk to the organizations.
If you want to see Dublin, and I recommend it, consider arriving 2 - 3 
days early, or staying after the meeting at a hotel downtown near 
Grafton Street and Trinity College.  The college even has dorm rooms 
available at very reasonable rates, if you don't mind roughing it a bit..
This meeting will have the highest attendance of the year. Many hotel 
reservations have already been made.  It's not too late to make yours.  
http://www.citywesthotel.com/
Ray Pelletier
IETF Administrative Director


Eliot Lear wrote:

> I wrote:
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> > It's Ray's job to make the call.  It's the IAOC's job to see that he 
> > does his job well.  I think Ray has at least earned the benefit of the 
> > doubt.  Perhaps this is best viewed retrospectively since contracts 
> > are signed?
> >    
> I am told the following by someone who should know:
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> > Actually, Ray really does NOT make these decisions in the absence of 
> > much debate and analysis within the IAOC and its various committees.
> >    
> Eliot
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