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Re: IETF 72 --> Dublin!

2008-02-03 15:12:10
Dear Stuart;



On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:31 PM, GOLDMAN, STUART O ((STUART)) wrote:

Folks,



I just went to the website to at least grab a room for the time being.



I was disappointed to learn that reservations are non cancellable  
and non refundable!



Maybe you missed this message from Ray Pelletier :

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As a result of incorrect data on the Citywest Hotel website there have
been some questions asked.  Here is the correct information based upon
the contract with the hotel.

Ray Pelletier
IETF Administrative Director

Citywest Contract with IETF  http://www.citywesthotel.com/site/ 
index.aspx

1. Room Rates - Single: 130 EUR: Double: 160 EUR; Breakfast, Internet
and taxes are included

2. Guest substitution permitted

3. Promotion Code: IETF

4. Guest Cancellation
Individuals can cancel the reservation without penalty until 3 days
prior to check-in / arrival. In case of cancellation less than 3 days
prior to the event or non-arrival or no-show, the Hotel holds the right
to charge the individuals one nights stay as cancellation fees.

5. Check In - Check Out.  Hotel check-in is 15:00 hrs. Check-out is to
be completed by 11:00 AM however Hotel shall reasonably accommodate
early arrivals and late departures of the international attendees based
on availability.

6. Non-smoking Rooms.  The Hotel's guestroom should be at least 95%
non-smoking in inventory.

7. Renovation.  As of the date of the signing of this contract, Hotel
has no plans for renovation and remodeling.

8. Difficulties with reservations can be addressed to Melissa at
mmallon(_at_)citywesthotel(_dot_)com

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Of course, our contract supersedes whatever the website says.

Regards
Marshall


Please note the following terms & conditions relate to this booking.



• Bookings are non refundable and non transferable.

• Cancellations will not be accepted for online bookings

• Check in time : after 1400 hrs

• Check out time : before 1200 hrs

• Rates are per room per night.

• Rates are for accommodation only unless otherwise stated.

• These rates are not available for groups or conferences.

• Rates are non commissionable.

• Management reserve the right to assign guests to rooms in either  
the Citywest Main or Golf Hotels depending on availability

• For single adult reservations the Management reserve the right  
to provide guests with a single room instead of double room only in  
the unlikely event of all double rooms being occupied



Stuart Goldman

Alcatel-Lucent

sgoldman(_at_)alcatel-lucent(_dot_)com

+1 602 493 8438

 please save a tree by not printing this e-mail.









-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On  
Behalf Of Dean Willis
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:38 PM
To: Ray Pelletier
Cc: IETF Discussion
Subject: Re: IETF 72 --> Dublin!





On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote:



The venue will be the beautiful Citywest Hotel, "Ireland’s premier

Conference, Leisure & Golf Resort and one of Europe’s most popular

International Conference destinations. The four star Citywest Hotel

is only 20km from Dublin airport and 15km from Dublin City Centre."

http://www.citywesthotel.com/site/index.aspx





Excuse me, but isn't this in the boonies way outside town? Are we

going to be stuck in a $200 a night hotel with no reasonable

alternative accommodations eating vastly overpriced hotel food and

facing a one-hour commute to anywhere else?



We should know by now that isolated resorts ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE as

meeting locations. Even if they're vaguely close to cool places like

Dublin.



It's not too late. Please cancel the meeting now. Even if it costs a

bunch of money and means we have to skip that meeting date.



Yes, I'm serious.



And no, I don't play golf, which appears to be the entire focus of

this sort of location.





--

Dean







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