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Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures?

2008-08-14 06:30:49
Andrew Sullivan <ajs(_at_)commandprompt(_dot_)com> writes:

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:25:42AM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote:

request should be well established.  I can think of at least two reasons
that are valid:

* Exact duplicates
* Spam

As soon as you have evaluated the claim, even for "exact duplication"
or "it's spam", haven't you done exactly what the pages claim not to
do (take a position on the validity of the claim)?  I know that sounds
silly, but it seems to me that any evaluation _at all_ is
automatically a contravention of what the pages say the IETF does.  If
the pages are just a list of claims, including bogus ones, then the
IETF has taken no position at all.  As soon as some of them have been
evaluated, we're at the top of a slippery slope, I think.

That's a safer position, yes, but I suspect it will be completely
unusable quickly because of spam.

I can't find anything about permitting anonymous patent disclosures to
the IETF, so I think it would be possible to require some human
interaction with the submitter, to verify his identity, before a
disclosure is posted.  Contacting a company's counsel when feasible
would also help.  I don't think this would violate the requirement not
to validate claims -- we are not validating the claims, but just
validating the person notifying the IETF.

This sounds somewhat complex though, so maybe it is overkill.

/Simon
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