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Re: Defining the existence of non-existent domains

2009-12-29 13:03:34

On 2009-12-27, at 20:16, John Levine wrote:

It seems to me that if we think it's a good idea to specify a domain
name that doesn't exist, we're better off clarifying the status of the
ones already specified rather than inventing new ones.  Since the
people who manage .ARPA are the exact same people who manage the root
(IANA, operated by ICANN, in both cases), one is as likely to flake as
the other.

Operational management is not what I was talking about (assuming it was my 
recent comments that triggered that observation). I was expressing concern over 
policy. I think the policy that governs the administration of the ARPA zone is 
far easier to characterise in an IETF context than that of the root zone.

In fact, ICANN is quite aware of the reserved names list.  In the
current draft of the application process, one of the steps is to
check to see if a proposed name is one of the Reserved ones, in which
case the application fails immediately.  Here's their reserved list:

AFRINIC      IANA-SERVERS NRO
ALAC         ICANN        RFC-EDITOR
APNIC        IESG         RIPE
ARIN         IETF         ROOT-SERVERS
ASO          INTERNIC     RSSAC
CCNSO        INVALID      SSAC
EXAMPLE*     IRTF         TEST*
GAC          ISTF         TLD
GNSO         LACNIC       WHOIS
GTLD-SERVERS LOCAL        WWW
IAB          LOCALHOST
IANA         NIC

Again, I am not involved in existing or proposed future policy for the root 
zone, but I'm confused as to what you are attempting to achieve through 
draft-levine-reserved-names-registry-00.

If you're proposing to ICANN that they cede control over the reserved names 
list for the root zone to an IANA registry controlled by an IETF process (RFC 
publication, according to your current text), then this doesn't seem like the 
venue to propose that.

If you're proposing that the IETF document a list of names that has change 
control and authorship homed within ICANN, then I'm not sure what the benefit 
of that is.

If you're making some other proposal, then I am currently missing it.

Could you explain?


Joe

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