At 9:32 AM -0800 7/30/10, Melinda Shore wrote:
Yoav Nir wrote:
First is people who have an idea they want to present,
but that idea either doesn't fit the charter of any
particular working group (or they don't know about such a
working group), or else said working group's schedule
is too full with existing work.
The way that's traditionally done is with an internet draft.
Bingo. The number of scheduled-but-ad-hoc BoFs that had fleshed-out ideas but
no drafts was distressing. One of the big lessons learned from the current
situation: people have forgotten that writing initial drafts is both easy and
non-committal. If you're worried about writing a draft that turns out to be a
bad idea, just write something humorous and self-deprecating about that in the
abstract.
The implication that there needs to be a session, with a room
and slides and humans sitting in chairs, kind of suggests that
people who want to participate in the IETF have to attend
meetings.
"participate" is too strong a word. Scheduled-but-ad-hoc BoFs now have the same
unfortunate properties of many WGs, namely that 80+% of the people there are
only there to listen, not help. A true bar BoF eliminates most of them due to
the intimacy.
--Paul Hoffman, Director
--VPN Consortium
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