On 8/28/10 10:29 AM, Mary Barnes wrote:
So, if all you guys (and it's been all guys from what I've seen) would
just consider how you would feel if you either had access to very
little food (think 4 days without a real meal and subsisting on
illegally imported nuts and dried fruit for 4 days) or if your
wife/daughters/girlfriends were having to travel alone on a train
late at night or navigate a city they don't know alone at nite, then
perhaps you'll have a modicum of insight into some of these concerns.
[BTW, the information on safety on the host site were certainly not
relevant to my personal concerns].
The incidence of rape in the netherlands is about 1/3 that of the city
in which you normally live in, the homocide rate is 1/15. certain kinds
of property crime are known to be pretty high. By most measures of
personal well-being the netherlands is one of the safest countries in
the world.
You stood at least an order of magnitude higher probability of being
accosted or assulted on the street when we were situated in the
tenderlion in san franciso, so either you're a fairly bad judge of
relative risk (most humans are) or the unfamilar has produced uncessary
concerns.
As I said in prior posts, I think Maastricht would be a lovely city
for a vacation/holiday, but it is a very poor choice for a business
meeting. And, actually the scattered nature of the hotels made if far
more difficult to interact with IETF friends than it is when the
hotels are all close to the venue and there are fewer choices.
Regards,
Mary.
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
<hannes(_dot_)tschofenig(_at_)nsn(_dot_)com> wrote:
Hi Jordi,
Hi all,
I have not seen an IETF meeting where people have not complained about
the layout of the venue, how to get there, the city itself, the
proximity to some nearby countries, the weather, the hotel, the number
of offered hotels, the high crime rate, etc. etc.
The place that makes 95% of the typical IETF meetings participants happy
does not even exist.
Maybe it would be useful to highlight the positive aspects of traveling
instead. Maastricht is an interesting city and you saw lots of your IETF
friends again.
Ciao
Hannes
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